I have the opinion that fantasies might work the other way around, meaning that someone wants to turn the fantasy into reality, because the unreal thing is simply not enough for them.

Now don't get me wrong, it's really sick if someone wants to rape and kill for real, but I think that there are enough people who radicalise themselves, mix up fantasy and reality and do gruesome things. Personally, as a developer I wouldn't want to fuel those.

I'll keep this succinct. People have been killing and raping for thousands of years. Fantasies don't come from other people's fiction, it comes from themselves. Correlation does not imply causation. However, you're free to believe what you want.

Ultimately, it's all up to the XMoon team.

I'm sorry, but I think you're at least partly wrong with this opinion. I mean, I think you are really creative if you get inspiration out of thin air, but in my experience, I don't get ideas that I can flesh out into short stories (or story proposals) out of nothing.

I want to say that it can work the way you described, but I'd rather say that it is more often this way: Someone sees something in the world, either a picture, a movie, a story or people doing something, and this person either dislikes it (and forgets about it), or this person likes it and starts thinking and fantasizing about it. This is the way inspiration works, in my opinion, and can give the ideas for anything, let it be theories for science and technology, ideas for novels or movie scripts, or sexual fantasies.

Inspiration by observation.

If it really worked this way in normal people, then Call of Duty and Battlefield would have spawned a multinational army of serial killers.

Alright. I am done with this topic. Sorry that I could not make myself clear. Maybe it is a language-barrier-thing, since I am not a native english speaker.

I tried to explain that when pushing stories in literature, movies or games to the limits, there is the inherent danger that some people get lost in fantasy because they get captivated. Of course, most people know the difference between fiction and reality, but some don't.

What's the use in banning media with excessive use of sex and violence? Protect children from harm. But also to sustain a decent society, in my opinion. Maybe it is only superficially decent, because people watch their porn or play their games with windows closed. I don't know. But when I think about a society where it was allowed to depict anything illegal and perverse someone can imagine... I don't like that idea, because it makes me question whether man is a reasonable being or a mere beast on two legs.

I find Lolicon a blatant theme for an XSP-Dream. Even if you don't put a story like that into it, just the modding option. Would I like to have my game circulated around secret pedophilia message boards? No, I don't.

Then you don't like the idea of freedom, which is strange to me. The problem here is you're mixing too many ideas that don't go together. Freedom of expression does not bring around widespread degeneracy. If someone's influenced by media, it's not the media's fault. It's a combination of that person's nurture and nature. Stable humans don't want to go out and murder after watching Rambo.

Should it shoved into people's faces in public places? Of course not. Should it be outright illegal? Not a chance. You'd have to seek out these type of things to find them.

And lolis are purely 2D and have nothing to do with pedophilia. Lolis are very popular among those who like anime, manga, and h-games. I'd be willing to be a large number of those who've played XStoryPlayer have first played at least one h-game. That said, I'm not too sure XSP has the artstyle for lolis. XSP excels at physics, and I think that's what should be focused on.

Physics and gameplay > Story ideas.

You have cut my conclusion. I said that I don't like the idea, because it makes me question whether man is reasonable or a beast on two legs.

I feel quite uncomfortable with the idea of completely absolving media from responsibility.

Your freedom ends where anybody else's freedom begins. Absolute freedom is impossible.

And I don't see what fantasies about pedophilia have to do with freedom of speech.

"I said that I don't like the idea, because it makes me question whether man is reasonable or a beast on two legs."
-Don't expect so much from us human. Were animal to begin with.

"Your freedom ends where anybody else's freedom begins. Absolute freedom is impossible."
-Not to sure since the beginning there was an absolute freedom but it came with a cost.

" I don't see what fantasies about pedophilia have to do with freedom of speech"
-Your talking about people freely expressing their fantasy and in which you want to cock-block their freedom to express their fetish.

= I'm okay with people expressing their fetish just not okay with people doing it in real life that for me that is.

Not to mention that until just recently (history-wise) people routinely married off their pubescent daughters to much older men. They were seen mostly as a burden to the family as they had no income. The idea that children are sexless and pure until adults is ridiculous. I'm not advocating child-porn just trying to inject a little reality into the "morals" that can put an 18 yr old boy in prison for having sex with his 16 yr old girlfriend. And on a last note who is being hurt if someone does have a underage model in this game? The pixels? The graphics card? This is the same argument they try to use against violence in video games. It is just not true.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_alleged_Natural_Born_Killers_copycat_crimes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ey9-woxPWu4

You can lead a horse to water...

Bad or insufficient parenting allowed most of the bad situations for the copycats. That and a significant amount of children involved have all been on psychotropic drugs like Ridillin (not sure of spelling). I suspect the drugs never allow them to confront dealing with strong emotions as most humans learn how to do as they grow up. That is my opinion.

I agree that games as they progress to more realistic simulations will become a place for learning bad things. Games like Halo are not "that" bad now because it is more geared toward fictional violence. I have played some games I would never want my kids to play. It was simply too gory and realistic looking/sounding. It was disturbing.

Also, consider this, if a lie is repeated often enough people start to believe it is true. Think about that when watching advertisements. Like "beef, its whats for dinner" or "milk, it does a body good". Yet you have celebrity fitness "experts" saying a human should not ingest milk once they weened as a child. So, exactly, what kind of "programming" do advertisers and movie makers push? Do they push programming? Does the news media?

I think most movies are trying to communicate ideas in ways we can ingest in our brain. If this is actually true, then what kind of message is the movie The Matrix trying to send? Perhaps, just perhaps, the "reality" we are sold everyday around us is not as "real" as we think it is. We are "plugged" into an information stream through all the various sources. How much of it is true or a lie? We already know advertisers lie, and they supply the funding for television programs and sometimes movies. What else are they lying about?

Something to think about, something to reject, and something to say WTF about. I got something for everyone.